Posts by Pete Zahut

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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?

by Darkknight757 in

so i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.

for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.

i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.

Pete Zahut

I also told her that I will go to all the meetings with her no problem but not field service. She is also ok with this.
I guess for the time being Ill just keep up the act because I wouldnt want to devastate her by suddenly telling her I don't believe in God.(or at least the God of the bible)

Sometimes the most important thing to JW wives is that you're there to complete the picture so that she isn't in the position of being a widow by having an unbelieving mate.

When I stopped going to the meetings, my wife hated sitting there alone, but that was when she really started to pay attention to the things she had been raised with and had taken for granted to be true.

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I've been depressed lately.

by Butyoucanneverleave in

my husband and i went to visit his family for the holidays.

not everyone showed for the visit ,the weather was lousy, and it just generally sucked.

now we're back to the same old routine with work and life and we're both depressed and alone.

Pete Zahut

It sounds like you had a "perfect storm" of events....a stretch of unstructured free time off, during a blah time of year and spent with people you'd rather not be with. The Holidays are sometimes like that even for people whose families are speaking to them.

Sometimes it's good to get back to our normal routines no matter how hum-drum they can seem. In the meantime, I think it's good to make a point of having specific plans made during the holidays or when you have long stretches of free time and to fill in the void. During the winter (especially) it's good to have something nice to look forward to. Sometimes just getting away to a nearby city or town and spending the night there, eating out or doing something new, is enough to do the trick. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money either....just something to break the routine and fill the down time and move you in the direction of getting out yourself out there meeting new people or having new experiences.

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Inactive brother that on line games with fellow JWs

by joe134cd in

just wanting to know if anyone knows of a similar case and what's the deal with it.

i have an inactive jw acquaintance who hasn't been inside a kh for at least a couple of years.

yet the weird thing is there is a net work of jws that he dose on line gaming with.

Pete Zahut

Younger and more open minded JW's are quicker to skate by the rules on technicalities or loopholes so long as the inactive one plays his cards right and doesn't draw any lines in the sand and forces anyone to "take a stand". I'm sure they rationalize that since the individual isn't physically present, what's the harm? If this was officially brought to anyone's attention, I'm sure it would be stopped.

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what things can we say

by pepperheart in

what sort of things could we say to people on the trolleys and going door to door to make the most of the fact that the magazines are going bimonthly from now on .

ie oh will headquaters pay able to give you a bit of money for your fuel costs now ?.

Pete Zahut

I keep a few photo copies of the old magazine covers and information(shown below), on the book case in my front entry hall. They don't seem to see the humor when they offer their current literature and I show them these old ones and ask "so what happened??" You do see a light bulb go on in their heads however much they try to hide it.

I suppose a person could carry copies of these with them and leave them next to the literature on a trolley or with the persons attending the trolley and say " JW's spent countless hours and years of their lives blanketing the earth with this literature and those who didn't take their magazines were said to be "goats" and it all turned out to be wrong. How about the literature you have here today....will it stand the test of time or are you misleading people and wasting your time too?"

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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?

by Darkknight757 in

so i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.

for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.

i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.

Pete Zahut

Rather than an saying I'm an Atheist (gasp) I call myself an "Enthusiastic Agnostic". I'd love for someone to prove to me without a shadow of a doubt, the existence of God and undeniable proof that a paradise awaits us. I'll be the first one to do whatever he/she wants me to do, once it is clear. So far, nothing along these lines are provable and until they are, I can't in good conscience be expected to go from door to door showing people the same feeble bits of cobbled together reasonings that we currently have. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

If there is a God and there is a paradise in store for us, there is no reason I too shouldn't be a part of it. My wife could see the reasonableness of this and couldn't provide any information for me or herself, that wasn't easily refutable.

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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

by Crazyguy in

on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

Pete Zahut

Makemeanunbeliever 19 hours ago
Sounds like y'all are mad cause you left the "family"?

I'm not mad....could care less if they finally get to have a bit of fun instead of boring, somber, tight laced, buttoned up, stale meetings week after week.

I do however find it ironic that having grown up as a JW and a former Bethelite, how scripture after scripture was sited to show us why, when it comes to worshiping Jehovah, we weren't allowed to be anything but "serious minded" "not emulating the world" "modest not drawing attention to ourselves" etc. We couldn't even have a non witness song in our weddings or have dancing at our get togethers.

We got scolded by the Circuit Overseer for having a 50's costume party because we were emulating the world by dressing in 50's garb and playing 50's music when we should have been dressed like Witnesses in the 50's and reenacting how they would have gone from door to door (I kid you not).

Now it seems the Bible has been re-written and what was wrong for us to do, is ok...even on the assembly hall platform apparently !

I say go for it...this is just the further proof I need to confirm that this is no longer the religion I was pretty much forced to dedicate my life to and it will be just the kind of thing to wake up those who's eyes are beginning to be opened to how fast JW's are becoming just another fundamentalist mainstream religion.

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Is the Pioneer School being eliminated?

by wannaexit in

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friends

i heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.. i could see this happening.

it used to be that you went to the the pioneer school once.

then they allowed dubs to go every 5 years.

Pete Zahut

I heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.

Well this is just further proof that the terrorists are winning !

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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

by Crazyguy in

on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

Pete Zahut

The brothers in the band brazenly sing one of the most popular R&B songs of all time, whose lyrics celebrate the lustful feelings of a man or woman under the spell of love ("I Feel Good") and shimmying across the floor to denote anything but dignity and spirituality.

And (gasp)...said "shimmying" was done in britches that were kinda' tight.

What will Tony Morris have to say once he gets wind of this? (oh, and he will ).

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this is a real picture

by brandnew in

jw
friends

yeah watchtower is blessing their efforts .

Pete Zahut

I kind of like that photo and it might be nice to go to meeting where things are a bit more "open air" rather than in a stuffy closed up building. This building may be just the right thing for that area and would be easy to repair and maintain. Folks who live there may only need a place to get in out of the direct sun or the occasional rain shower and may be glad they don't have to come up with the money to build an maintain a more formal building. Perhaps they even have a portable generator to run their flat screen (if internet is even available).

OR:

This is all they could afford once their funds were handed over to the folks back at headquarters.

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New York Times article Dec 31 2015

by Gayle in

jw
friends

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.

jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.

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Pete Zahut

I can't imagine even the Watchtower would stoop so low as to place their world headquarters in a small town like Warwick and expect to receive all city services free of charge.

I believe, in order to save on fire insurance costs, they have their own fire dept at Patterson so they may do the same at Warwick. Hopefully they won't need the Police much or the school system. They shouldn't have as much of an impact on the Warwick area proper, compared to Brooklyn where they shared the streets and sidewalks with the public. They will be on their own private compound now, rather than in the middle of a populated City. They may have wells on site for water but will need power and sewer unless they've got some kind of on site system of their own. If they need outside utilities, I imagine they'll pay the same rates for those as anyone else (maybe not). Shipping and trucking needs have gone down due to less printing and shipping of magazines and paper deliveries are likely reduced in comparison to what it was in Brooklyn. In order to get the land use permits they needed, the local Warwick government may have required them to widen their main road of usage, put in sidewalks and traffic lights to accommodate the new draw of visitors and additional trucking needs.

I imagine the Warwick Chamber of Commerce may welcome the draw of outsiders to their area, who may frequent their businesses etc. In my mind, this complex will be self supporting enough that JW visitors and residents won't go beyond the walls of their own compound for food, accommodations and the like. The Brooklyn neighborhood complained about this back when I was in Bethel. They thought the Watchtower was far to insular and put a strain on the local free public amenities without having any real beneficial impact on the local businesses.